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Am I the only Modified Alpine owner? I mean hay I know this club has had a “Tiger” bias for years but I am sure I have meet a few Alpine guys at events over the years and if you own a Alpine it is most likely modified or not running. HAY IS THERE ANY ONE OUT THERE? Post tell us a story say friggin something. All you TE/AE members who are Alpine owners speak up bump your gums show these Tiger boys we are part of this club too. Heck they just have modified Alpines.
I here by challenge all TE/AE Alpine owners to post even if it is just to say. “Hi my name is xxxxx and I own and an Alpine” other wise you are not supporting this club and this board.
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My name is Eric and I own an Alpine…..or two. I can’t speak for the others but I started with a Tiger a long time ago and then about 20 years ago I bought my first running Alpine. What fun! Easier steering, better gas mileage, and that same great feeling driving down the road. I just bought another Alpine from the original owner and will soon be installing an OD tranny that I got from a fellow board member. With gas starting to get more expensive, this Alpine will be my mode of travel to work!
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Hi all:
A few years back I crossed over to the dark side and modified my Series V by installing a 5 speed transmission. With the scarcity of overdrive units it was a pragmatic way to achieve the same results – lower rpms, less engine wear, slightly better gas mileage and less noise and buzziness in the car when running 75-80 mph on the interstate.
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quote Jim E:Paul the Toyota transmission set up is just slick! I do not understand why it is not done more often here in the US.
Hi Jim: Yeah, I agree. The tranny is about bullet proof. It will handle way more horsepower than the Alpine engine will ever produce. The tranny is readily available at reasonable prices all over the US. Parts, if you ever need ’em, are also readily available. And, last but not least, the 5th gear overdrive eliminates the need for switches, wiring, solenoids and the like required by the very good Alpine overdirve unit.
time to go fishing – it’s about 80 degrees today and the Alpine is going for a ride!
from sunny South Dakota,
Paul A
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Is this modified enough? It’s my kid’s project.
More info at his website: http://www.toyzjunkie.com
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Hello my name is Michael, I own a modified SII alpine. I have done a few things to the motor, interiro and rear suspension.. you can see more about that here… http://community.webshots.com/user/alpine_64
My father owns a SIVGT which has been converted to a softop and runs a DD weber and a skimmed head…
😀 😈
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Hey Jim
No you are not alone.(Tongue in cheek as you know what I have)
I own 2 modified Alpines.
How about making a LIster clone.Stuff a 351 windsor under the hood with a 5 speed pushing a 8 Inch ford rear end.Oh yes the front end has been modified using aftermarket mustang A arms,spindles,Mustang 2 rotors and calipers with Mustang rack and pinion.
My good old 62 V6 is now going to have a hot 302, 5 speed and ford rear end.Front end has mustang spindles etc.Of course I had to add again the good old mustang rack and pinion.
This of course is but a brief introduction to what I have done.
I will always answer who ever wants to know more about me and the cars.
Right now I’m finding it hard to find the time to work on it.The weekend starting today is gone as we are having some of the grandchildren over.Thats just one of the reasons its sunny all the time 8) -
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hello im new to the site just picked up a 66 alpine with a 76 2.8? not sure cant see the engine nos. w/o pulling off the headers ectr ect my first car was a 62 alpine this is like a dream come true until i look in the engine bay the install was a butcher job and i will be pulling the engine to clean up the engine bayect ect while the motor is out i plan on a conversion from automatic to 4 or 5 speed if i can find the correct bell housing clutch and trans any help in this area as to year make and model no would help a lot . saw the post re guarding the mustang ll front suspension this tweaked my interest was wondering what the pitfalls were if any especially need to know the mounting locations im rambling on sorry about that but one more thing cant find the proper timing setting for the 2.8 think it was a capri or bobcat thanks a lot earl form wheeling wv
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quote earl:hello im new to the site just picked up a 66 alpine with a 76 2.8? not sure cant see the engine nos. w/o pulling off the headers ectr ect my first car was a 62 alpine this is like a dream come true until i look in the engine bay the install was a butcher job and i will be pulling the engine to clean up the engine bayect ect while the motor is out i plan on a conversion from automatic to 4 or 5 speed if i can find the correct bell housing clutch and trans any help in this area as to year make and model no would help a lot . saw the post re guarding the mustang ll front suspension this tweaked my interest was wondering what the pitfalls were if any especially need to know the mounting locations im rambling on sorry about that but one more thing cant find the proper timing setting for the 2.8 think it was a capri or bobcat thanks a lot earl form wheeling wv
Earl.
For all V6 alpines etc.check out http://www.sunbeamalpine.org
There is lots of info as well as people who will be willing to give advice.
As to Mustang suspension in an alpine you can email me
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quote earl:hello im new to the site just picked up a 66 alpine with a 76 2.8? not sure cant see the engine nos. w/o pulling off the headers ectr ect my first car was a 62 alpine this is like a dream come true until i look in the engine bay the install was a butcher job and i will be pulling the engine to clean up the engine bayect ect while the motor is out i plan on a conversion from automatic to 4 or 5 speed if i can find the correct bell housing clutch and trans any help in this area as to year make and model no would help a lot . saw the post re guarding the mustang ll front suspension this tweaked my interest was wondering what the pitfalls were if any especially need to know the mounting locations im rambling on sorry about that but one more thing cant find the proper timing setting for the 2.8 think it was a capri or bobcat thanks a lot earl form wheeling wv
Factory specs for static timing is 12 degrees advanced.
Jose 🙂
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as a tiger owner, i feel the same way on the SAOCA board, but i suppose that is a dedicated to alpines and this is meant to be for both….
i own a tiger. recently drove an alpine for the first time and it was a blast! chalk and cheese. i’d probably own both if i was allowed 🙂
re: gas milage – i’m not sure the average alpine gets any better mileage than tiger with a small 4bbl and a T5.
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I bought a moonstone Series 1 in 1960 while in the Army.Sarge called it [with the top up] a"pregnant roller skate" as he drove a gigantic 1959 Lincoln convertible.Loved the way the Series 1 handled,gas was 26.9 cents,a $5 dollar bill got you $2 back..drove it across the USA in 1964 top down[no top] all the way[neither rain,sleet etc.].Traded it [wish I kept it] in 1966 for a Series 5.Still have the Series 5,repainted original forest green,running well on second engine.No modifications although the Toyota transmission is intriguing. Owned a Tiger II since 1996.Also green,engine rebuilt. In case of fire I tell my wife if you want to be sure you are saved…sit in the Alpine! Live in NYC and Eastern end of Long Island.Stop by! Frank Mooney
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I just got back from the Invasion in Ohio and my Alpine ran like a champ! Not sure I believe the gas mileage numbers… and I put the gas in the car, 590 miles took 23 gallons just over 25 miles per.
By the way the S3 now has a 4.22 gear and a T5 from a 3.8 Mustang. I broke the rear end and 5.0 T5, had a 3.89 gear before, not sure if the trans broke the rear or the rear broke the trans, but it is driving fine now and the 4.22 gear really woke the car up if that is posible.
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Hi Jim:
Nice challenge.
I own several Alpines, race one, am restoring one and also own a Tiger.I don’t feel the bias in this club as strongly as I once did.
And I don’t feel it’s important to belong to one ‘camp’ or the other (Alpine or Tiger), particularly on a trumped-up prestige basis. That kind of thinking is very ‘old world,’ not befitting this world, particularly in these times.
There are those who would challenge this statement, but if their basis is value, here’s a conundrum: there are, due to normal attrition and Tiger scavenging, very possibly fewer Alpines than Tigers remaining. Why, then (if this were true) is the more rare car less valued in dollars? Will this trend reverse? [I doubt it but there might one day be an increase in Alpine dollar value, not relative to the Tiger, but based on the Alpine’s merits alone, and upon its relative scarcity]That said, it’s relevant to mention that I’ve been to a couple of meets where the Alpines were very much in the minority. Whose responsibility is that? THE ALPINE OWNERS’.
Get ’em out and show ’em off.
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Modified is a word of art.I still have my Series 5 stock Alpine[purchased off the showroom floor in NYC in 1966;got a 5 year 50,000 mile Chrysler warranty;traded my 1960 Series 1] but the Series 5 now has a large racing number affixed on each door saying Long Island Road Ralley 1906…dont know what that means but got it at a later 2000 era ralley[2006?] and left this "modification" on the car.Also put magnetised flames on the hood/bonnet.The car did have an engine compartment fire years ago blistering the hood somewhat so this "modification"helps hide the damage and is some form of acknowledgement to the God of fire who spared the car. I also installed a Weber 32/36 carb and put the leaking Strombergs in a box…save everything.The Series 1 and 5 Alpines were/are nice driving cars. The Tiger II is more work and a different experience.Good luck with your modified Alpine. Frank Mooney
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If you want to see a modified Alpine just view the green 67 that I sold to Eric(65sunbeam) in SC a couple of years ago. My dad & I built it in 72 & I don’t believe it was beaten many times thereafter. It was autoXed until he passed away several years ago. The engine was built by me for a 66 but it met with a tree 10 minutes after I started it. My father put the engine in the green 67 & the rest is history.Weber 40’s, block decked 60 thousands, head milled 40, custom grind street cam from RC automotive, 422 gears,triple angle valve job & NUMEROUS suspension tweaks(double front sway bars cut front springs etc). Jack Swift
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quote Paul A:quote Jim E:Paul the Toyota transmission set up is just slick! I do not understand why it is not done more often here in the US.
Hi Jim: Yeah, I agree. The tranny is about bullet proof. It will handle way more horsepower than the Alpine engine will ever produce. The tranny is readily available at reasonable prices all over the US. Parts, if you ever need ’em, are also readily available. And, last but not least, the 5th gear overdrive eliminates the need for switches, wiring, solenoids and the like required by the very good Alpine overdirve unit.
time to go fishing – it’s about 80 degrees today and the Alpine is going for a ride!
from sunny South Dakota,
Paul A
I’ve heard about using a Toyota 5spd tranny, but cannot find any post as to the: what, when, where, how. What are the details or where can I find the details.
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I have 3 Alpines. I have a 62 series II parts car, along with a 63 Seriers II B title picked up at the factory in England, then after spending sometime over there they had it shipped to Jersey. I also have a 63 Series II that I have owned for 4 times the first being in 1972. It’s been 2 years in the restoration with a complete frame strip down, new floor, all kinds of other new goodies. With what I have in and will till I’m done I easily could have bought a tigger, but….. The engine was bored out 30 over, changing to an alternating system, radiator recored, tiger dash and mags, redone Hardtop, wiring , exhaust, and more. It’s just about ready to be repainted and then Sports Car Haven in Bloomsburg will be puting it back togeather. I may actually make it to a gathering or 2 this year. It does seem that more people wreck Tiggers than Alpines and they keep using up Alpine bodys to fix them, so sooner or later the Alpines will rise to the top because ther’re won’t be as many Alpines as Tiggers. Besides if I wanted a race car I’d but a 69 Road Runner. Just Kidding, couldn’t afford 1. Oh and thanks to any and all that I may have bought parts from and still continue to. Mad John
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Well ,I thought I might as well add my bit to this post, I,m currently experimenting wilh different inlet manifolds & twin 40 carbs.http://dodgealpine.yolasite.com
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Very nicely done. I like your sensible mods for go faster and look better.
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Update to website – H/top with high level brake lights + electric turbo mods + oil seal mod, check it out! http://dodgealpine.yolasite.com/
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